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  1. Rixer

    Rixer Horndog

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    Right but that's not the way it works. There is a work ladder that we all climb. Just because they become citizens doesn't mean they start out in a work field above their ability. When a person retires, the next person in line so to speak, will move up. That leaves another job to be filled and so on. Everybody moves up the ladder and the "new" person takes his place on the first rung, which is 'the entry level position'.

    seems realistic to me.
     
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  2. ace's n 8's

    ace's n 8's Porn Star

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    So in the mean times, we, as already established tax payers, dish out more food cards, more cell phones, more ''FREE'' healthcare, more housing, more unemployment benefits, more transportation, more dependency on the federal fucking government, until the future retirees are out of the work force.

    Then the immigrants realize it's easier to suckle on the federal fucking government tit, then realizing why would they need to go and apply for a job at aarp.
     
    1. shootersa
      That's where vetting of immigrants comes in.
      Make no mistake; we want immigrants because its good for America, not out of some misplaced sense of obligation
       
      shootersa, Nov 1, 2015
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      You know that, I know that, some others know that, the real question is, does our federal fucking government know that, I say no, no they dont.

      Until our federal fucking does know that, the vetting and 'profiling' concept will never be enacted.

      Israel does it, the U.S. wont.
       
      ace's n 8's, Nov 1, 2015
  3. Rixer

    Rixer Horndog

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    No, we mold them and help them acquire good paying jobs so they can become productive citizens and pay for OUR benefits.;)
     
  4. ace's n 8's

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    I'm all for that, but that model does not exist, as of now, half of this nations population does not work to begin with, it's not logical to add more to that.

    Get the folks that are already unemployed jobs first, then, and only then, we can talk about the rest of the world.
     
  5. clarise

    clarise Precious princess Banned!

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    This is where I'm coming from too, from the perspective of technological dominance.

    You can't go around the world and cherry-pick only the potential PhD's. You have to raise the population as a whole, and let them find their level. A small percentage will become scientists and engineers and inventors, but those people are cream that rises to the top.
     
    1. shootersa
      Why can't you?
      Be particular I mean
      We don't need more burger flippers.
      We need engineers and IT people ............
       
      shootersa, Nov 1, 2015
  6. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    And in the meantime they are a net drain on our economy and on our ability to rebound.

    Utopia exists only in the imagination.
     
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      Well actually, it is a planet in Dmand Prime, a little galaxy out near the Polinjang cluster.
       
      shootersa, Nov 1, 2015
  7. ace's n 8's

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    BULLSHIT . . . . the entire political left thrives on Utopia;)
     
  8. clarise

    clarise Precious princess Banned!

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    Gotta start somewhere.
     
  9. ace's n 8's

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    Yeah, need to start somewhere, start with building the wall, then we can talk about the rest.
     
  10. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Go back to square 1980, and expel all undocumented immigrants who have entered the US since then. Then talk about an orderly immigration policy to bring 1,000,000 per year back in. But to simply add to the top of the huge illegal population we already have is insanity.
     
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  11. ace's n 8's

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    I think a million is too much, more like 30,000- 40,000 annually, thoroughly vetted and watched.
     
  12. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Then you'll just witness another surge in illegals. We have almost 20,000 miles of virtually wide open international borders and seashores, try and wall that it.
     
  13. ace's n 8's

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    I had never thought it would be easy, I do believe it can be more manageable.

    Nor will it be inexpensive to say the least, this country spends hundreds of billions on catering to the illegals.

    If we want to solve the problem, we wont need a wall built, STOP THE FEDERAL FUCKING GOVERNMENT ENTITLEMENTS all together.

    Historically, everyone looks to the government for the solution, to hell with that anymore, look to the private sector for the solutions.

    Turn it all over to the private sector, then it will be under control in a matter of a few years, probably even less time then that.
     
  14. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Since the wall is going to start at the Pacific Ocean and end at the Gulf of Mexico, do we have any plans to stop the Mexicans from swimming around the ends?
     
  15. Sanity_is_Relative

    Sanity_is_Relative Porn Star

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    That is funny as hell because just a few days ago you were one of the hacks trying to tell me that what I was suggesting would not work and even called the idea irrelevant, and what I was suggesting was the very thing that you are now posting. So when it comes from me it is not feasible but from you it becomes the absolute solution?

    And Bron the wall already exists in San Diego and extends 300 feet into the Pacific ocean, it has not stopped anyone from getting into the country.
     
  16. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    The Border Wall idea is sort a public intelligence test. If you think it will accomplish it's goal, you're a dumbass.
     
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  17. Sanity_is_Relative

    Sanity_is_Relative Porn Star

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    I have another idea for the wall, for those who want a wall they can all get together and donate money to build it instead of using tax dollars to pay the $50billion and then over the years as the wall needs to be repaired the donors will be responsible for those costs, and the people that are needed to patrol the wall can be paid for by the people that pay the rest of the walls bills. Not one cent of tax money should be spent on this boondoggle.
     
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      What's to pay for, big Donny is going to get the Mexicans to pay for it.
      The only thing you mercans will have to pay for is the big arsed lock you'll need to keep them sneaky Mexicans from getting in.
       
      69magpie, Nov 2, 2015
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      That is a pipe dream, Trump cannot make Mexico pay even a penny towards his wall because it will not be on Mexican soil and will not be controlled by the Mexicans either. The best that he can hope for is that people are ignorant enough to vote for it just long enough to get it started on his lies just like he did in Scotland with the golf course that displaced many multi-generational farms and provided no jobs or taxes for the area.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Nov 2, 2015
  18. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    What about punishing employers who hire the illegals? Has anyone thought of that?
     
  19. Sanity_is_Relative

    Sanity_is_Relative Porn Star

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    That was page 2, do try to keep up.
     
  20. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    Don'e expect any money from them and don't even think about asking them to come down and actually work on it. You'll find out in hurry what kind of work Americans don't want to do.

    The fence is just another scam to distract people from the real problems and keep voting for candidates who want to blame someone else.
     
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